The Janine Bolon Show with Felixic Farber and Kelly Alexander: Sexting, Cyberbullying and the Great American Tax Remedy

Sexting, Cyberbullying & The Great American Tax Remedy with Felicia Farber & Kelly Alexander

Felicia Farber

Felicia Farber is an award-winning author and attorney in North Jersey who regularly speaks and writes on the legal dangers of mixing the common teen behaviors of sexting and cyberbullying with social media  Her debut young adult romantic suspense novel Ice Queen has won 11 awards, including the First Place Young Adult 2020 Dante Rossetti Book Award, First Place Award for Best Young Adult Ebook from Story Monsters Ink, and the Silver Award for Best First Children’s/Young Adult Book by the Independent Book Publishers Association.

Because our laws are outdated when it comes to teens, tweens and technology, Felicia wrote this book to make kids, parents, grandparents, educators, counselors and coaches aware of the social, emotional, and legal dangers faced by today’s adolescents. Minors who engage in sexting are at risk of prosecution every time they create, send or receive images or messages of a sexual nature since these electronic communications are viewed under most laws as child pornography. She feels strongly that: “We need to teach our youth the ramifications of their online actions before they get into trouble!

Felicia has been featured on numerous blogs and podcasts and has shared her expertise on electronic bullying and harassment to the legal, medical, and school communities. She has spoken at Monmouth University, Montclair State University, Rutgers New Jersey Medical School, Tenafly High School, the Wayne Township Public Library, the New Jersey State Bar Association, and several book clubs.

Aside from her passion for creative writing, Felicia is a full-time Attorney, Arbitrator and Mediator and holds many leadership roles in professional organizations and state and federal courts. In her “free” time she enjoys painting, reading, summer and winter sports, and sometimes even sleeping. 

Website: https://feliciafarber.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ICEQUEENBOOK

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/felicia.farber/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/feliciafarber

Kelly Alexander

Our Next Guest has sought answers to complex questions; she is driven to find alternative solutions and not settling for the ‘this is what we’ve always been taught’ status quo. 

Whether it was being diagnosed with an ‘incurable’ disease at the age of 19—that she healed in 48 hours after a relapse, to uncovering the real intent of our Founding Fathers when it comes to taxation and keeping your hard-earned money,  Kelly Alexander has real answers to share. After more than a decade of research and practical application, Kelly is a leading expert in this field, helping people from many walks of life discover options they never knew they had. Once armed with the secrets Kelly has uncovered, ‘We the People’ can legally and ethically liberate ourselves from federal and state income taxes. The secret is buried in powerful, little-known banking laws. If you live in the United States legally, work in the private sector, and pay over 8K per year in income tax, you are a candidate for the Great American Tax Remedy

Kelly’s Social Media:  

LinkedIn  https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-a-aa641aa/

Instagram  https://www.instagram.com/my_tax_remedy/        

Facebook   https://www.facebook.com/KellyInnsAlexander/

Transcript of the Show

Bryan Hyde
Welcome to the Janine Bolon show, where we share tips from around the globe, as we guide practical people with their finances using money tips, increase their incomes through side businesses, and maintain their sanity by staying in their creative zone.

Janine Bolon
Hey, welcome so much. I’m so thrilled that you’re back on the show with us today. We have a wonderful setup for you right now. But first of all, I wanted to say, look, you’re listening to us, and I would very much like you to be able to subscribe. And I had an email this week from Lisa. And Lisa was telling me Hey, I heard your show. I loved what you were saying on it. Do you have recordings of this? And the answer is Oh, my goodness. Lisa. Yes, we do. Go to www.theJanineBolonshow.com. There you go, www.theJanineBolonshow.com. There, you will see transcripts because I actually pay to make sure that you guys get transcripts of everything that people say as well as the recording of every show we’ve ever done. There’s only 218 of those 219 If you consider what we’re doing today, and also wanted to let you know that you can go on there, and if you hear of one of our guests that you really like what they’re doing, we make sure that their book landing pages and the freebies that they offer on the show are also made available to you. So make sure you get the links and all that when you sign on and we’ll go ahead and move on to our guest but Lisa, we are taking care of you and just go to www.theJanineBolonshow.com. And you will be able to find all that information. But next we need to chat with Felicia Farber and Felicia is one of those amazing authors that I got to meet at a book show, and she was with the Colorado Independent Publishers Association. She happened to hear me speak and one of the things that we really love about what Felicia is doing is not only is she award winning author and attorney in North Jersey who regularly speaks and writes on legal dangers of mixing the common tween teen behaviors of sexting and cyberbullying with social media. She has a debut young adult novel called Ice Queen. It’s won 11 awards. It even got the first place for young adult fiction. So Felicia has been featured on numerous blogs, podcasts like mine, she regularly shares her expertise on the really all too real consequences of that electronic bullying and harassment she presents to schools and to legal and medical communities. Thank you so much for being on the show today, Felicia.

Felicia Farber
Hi Janine, thank you so much for having me, I’m thrilled to be here.

Janine Bolon
I have to say that I was ecstatic when you reached out and said, Hey, I’d love to be on your show. Mainly because I am a single mother, I have three sons, I have a daughter. And let me tell you something raising kids nowadays is very different from when our parents were raising us. And the whole concept I remember the first time we went to the local library to learn about how to be safe because of the way the pornography laws are and all that, that it would be very easy for a teenager to get hooked up into a situation that was way escalating beyond anything they ever thought because of the way the laws were and the way media was defined at that time. So thank you for writing a novel on that.

Felicia Farber
I thought that that would be the best way to reach this generation to try and impart these important messages into a fun and entertaining story instead of lecturing kids, because then you know, they’re not really going to absorb what you’re saying. But if they see it acted out with true to life characters and really common scenarios, then hopefully that would resonate, and I think it has because the first comment that I get from everybody that reads it is I didn’t know that. That’s true. You know, everybody is shocked that it’s true. But it is, the realities of life with the digital media has changed. What is acceptable for teens and their behaviors that they think are common and harmless can really get them in trouble now.

Janine Bolon
And that’s one of those things that I remember, when we had our boy scout troops and our girl scout troops as a scout leader, we would have the police force come in and talk to us about things that were so harmless, seemingly so harmless to them, would actually get them in quite a bit of trouble because you’re dealing with people under the age of 18 under the you know, that era. And so, talk to us a little bit about you know, you have this amazing law practice, this background, this career in law. What on earth? I mean, you’re not really known for jumping out and getting into the nonfiction genre. I mean, this is not really what somebody thinks of when they say, attorney. Right. So tell us a little bit about that story of what made you do that skip and a jump into fictional literature?

Felicia Farber
Yes. So Ice Queen is a fictional story with very, very real life circumstances built in. And I was inspired to write this years ago, by an incident that occurred on the sidelines of a soccer field. My son played soccer, and we had gotten to know some of the parents and one of the dads of his best friend was very upset. So I said to him, What is going on? And he said, Ah, he said, The police just came to my shop and arrested me today. So I said, Oh, my gosh, for what? What happened? And so he said that his son had taken a picture of himself with his cell phone, topless at the lake, it was late summer, and it was from the top of his bathing suit on up, you couldn’t see that he was wearing a bathing suit. And he sent it to a girl that he liked. And apparently, the girl didn’t like him the same way because she showed it to her parents. And what did they do? They took it to the police, and the police came to arrest the kid’s dad for sexting because the cell phone was in the parent’s name. Something we don’t even think about our kids are doing all these behaviors, but who was ultimately responsible? It’s the parents because they’re underage kids can’t sign the contract. So the parents signed the cell phone contract. So the police came looking for him. And he ultimately straightened it out. But but it was very, very agonizing and expensive for him. And that stayed with me because I thought it was so outrageous. How could this happen in our modern society? This is, you know, such a ridiculous thing. Yeah, cuz I thought to myself, That’s a harmless photo. But that’s what happened. And I’ve been following this in the news, and I also have children, you know, so I’m very, very aware of what teens do online, on their phones and with electronic devices. So I thought everybody really, really needs to know about the dangers of sexting and cyberbullying, because these are things that are generally not taught in school, and we assume our kids are practicing safe technology use, but what if they’re not?

Janine Bolon
And then you find out about it on the soccer field, with the parents standing around, because that’s something that we don’t even think about when we’re parents, like you said, we sign the contracts, we’re the ones that are responsible, but Wowzers, right. So let’s talk a little bit about, so that was kind of what made you make the jump, but Okay, talk to us a little bit more about the details. So what was the inspiration that said, hey, this would make a really good book, because, you know, last I checked, when you’re going up for the bar, they’re really not teaching you frictional literature. I’m sorry, this is still a big jump and I’d love to hear that story.

Felicia Farber
Okay, so I love to write, and this is not my first book, this is my first published book. So this is a story though, I accelerated because I thought it really had to get out there. And being a lawyer has, you know, its positives, but I’m very creative. So I love to write and to paint and to create recipes and dance routines, you know, anything that didn’t exist and to, you know, start from scratch, blank screen, a blank canvas, and then create something beautiful out of it, make up your own world is really my passion. So for me, this was such a great escape from the legal writing that I have to do. So this is fun, you know? So it’s different because now that I put out this book, I get requested so many times to write legal articles. And people just think, Oh, you love to write but there’s a difference between fictional work and, and legal work, big difference.

Janine Bolon
But one of those beautiful things is there’s the work that you have to do and then there’s the work that you cherish and you’d love to do. And you’ve been able to write a fictional novel that actually combines the two and is very much important for what’s happening in the world today. So, if you don’t mind, tell us a little bit about how you decided on the name or the title “Ice Queen”.

Felicia Farber
I think there was only one name that my book could be and it was the “Ice Queen”, because she is at the core of the plot and how the other characters act. It’s all driven by her behavior. So just a little bit, you know, generally about the book is that the main characters are two high school students named Blair and David and they are inadvertently thrust into a sexting scandal. And they both think that they’re innocent, they didn’t do anything wrong. But Blair, my main character ends up in a cyber war with the Ice Queen, and she’s the class mean, girl, her and her group of friends are always bullying, Blair, and the scenarios that are portrayed here are all too common examples of real life sexting and cyberbullying. And it shows how easily teenagers can face criminal consequences for their digital behaviors.

Janine Bolon
Well, thank you so much for that little bit of a preview and we’re getting ready to go for a break. And when we come back from the break, you really want to hear what Felicia has to say regarding more about the cyber bullying. What can happen to teens because she has real life experience. Oh, and in case you didn’t know this, her book, Ice Queen is available now, it is published, we highly recommend you go out and buy the book. It’s one of those ways that she’s teaching without telling. She’s telling the story. She’s sharing a story, and she’s not teaching at by telling and that is so much different. We will come back after this break, and we’ll be with Felicia who will tell us more about Ice Queen.

Janine Bolon
Hey, welcome back to the show. This is the Janine Bolon show. And if you want to hear the rest of the Felicia’s, wonderful expose’ on revenge porn and cyberbullying and sexting, and the ways middle schoolers and high schoolers can get themselves accidentally in the midst of quite a bit of turmoil. You definitely want to listen to the entire episode and you can go to www.theJanineBolonshow.com. Look up the Felicia Farber interview and make sure that you get a copy of her book Ice Queen. So yes, talk to us a little bit about this main story arc that you have Felicia regarding the Ice Queen, and revenge porn. I’m sorry, I must be so outdated. I have no idea what that is. So please educate a mom here.

Felicia Farber
All right, thank you Janine. Revenge porn is basically unauthorized sexting, it’s non consensual pornography, which, unfortunately, is a growing form of digital sexual violence. So if somebody has an intimate photo or video of you, and they send it out, without your knowledge or consent, that’s considered revenge porn, and it’s become all too common. And then we take it to the next level of something called sextortion, which is where somebody has a sexual image of you and they basically are blackmailing you with that image. They’re saying, If you don’t give me more sexually explicit images, or perform sexual favors, or pay me money, then I’m going to post this image of you and that, believe it or not, is starting in middle school that sextortion so these concepts are revenge porn. Sextortion are things that kids in middle school and high school are dealing with, and I’ve had some parents tell me, Hey, this is happening in elementary school, too. So I try and gear my book for teens and tweens. And I’m kind of shocked that this is happening even younger.

Janine Bolon
Amazing what happens when technology moves faster than certain people’s emotional maturity levels and it’s just one of those things you never thought you would have to worry about, you know, kind of gone are the days of the magazines under the mattress kind of aspect. Right, you’re cleaning out your kid’s room or what have you, and this is stuff that is happening on electronic devices. So talk to us a little bit about how your book Ice Queen… a little bit about the story arc, and then we can go into details on what that means for your main character.

Felicia Farber
Right, so I don’t want to give a major spoiler alert here, but my characters do get caught up in a sexting scandal because there is kind of a racy photo of Blair, that gets sent out mainstream and lands in the hands of the police. And sexting is against the law for minors. So most kids don’t realize that if they just take a photo, and they’re under 18, and it’s nude, partially nude, it could even be sexy talk, anything that is sexually suggestive even can be considered to be obscene material, and can fall under child pornography laws. So taking that picture can be considered creating sexual pornography, sending it out, then is considered to be distribution of child pornography. And then the person who receives that picture can be charged with possession of child pornography. Just viewing that sex that you’re sent, if you’re a minor can be breaking the law. And these are things that are happening all over our country. And most of the time you don’t hear about it until it’s a major issue. And somehow it gets into the news. So I just want to share with you quick a story that I had. A mom contacted me a couple months ago, because her son who was a freshman in high school, actually ended up in a similar situation to the characters in my book. And for me, it was an Oh, no moment, seeing that I made up this story, synthesizing all real life circumstances and putting it together in a fictional novel, but her son was living what my characters had. And what happened to him is he received a sexted photo, and he sent it on to two of his friends. And this required the school intervention, the police got involved and investigated, and it was a photo that another boy had taken in the school bathroom, he took a selfie of himself, but behind him, a boy was at the urinal. So that was in the photo. So when this mom’s son sent it to his two friends, it was considered child pornography. And her son was suspended for 10 days from school and all of his activities, and this goes into his permanent file, and he has to take, you know, good digital citizenship classes. And there are a lot of repercussions from it. From just that simple act of receiving that photo and just showing it to two of his friends. So that’s, that’s one of the most innocuous cases with really a disproportionate punishment, I think for that child. But very often it’s females who have pictures of them after a relationship goes sour, that get sent out against their will you know. So really what is scary, is that kids have to think about when they take these pictures, what’s going to happen to them, if it gets out of my hands into an audience that’s not supposed to see it.

Janine Bolon
And this is Felicia Farber, who is speaking to us who also happens to be an attorney, and so one of the beautiful things about her story is not only was she an attorney, but she wanted to get this information out there in a way where she was sharing with people the stories of what sexting and cyberbullying was, but didn’t want to be telling these teenagers and tweens about it. She wanted to share stories, and she has written a wonderful novel called Ice Queen, that’s one 11 awards that talks about this for young adult fiction. So tell us how did you go about… you built a story, you had a lot of raw material literally to work from, but at the same time, how did you go about getting it into the right hands of people? So you get this book published, what did you do after that to get it to your demographic?

Felicia Farber
That’s the hard part for any author is to get it out. So I am on Instagram now and Twitter, and I have a book trailer that is on YouTube that hopefully will appeal and resonate with young people. I have a following that I am building up through my speaking engagements doing blogs and podcasts such as this, I am based in New Jersey, so through the New Jersey State Bar, there was a program a few months ago where I led a panel speaking about my book and all of these issues to educators, parents, grandparents, teachers, counselors throughout the state in order to reach the next generation. So I’m trying to go through both avenues to get to the target group, the young adults to reach them directly and to go through the adult population as well. That’s not easy.

Janine Bolon
No, because in case you hadn’t noticed young adults, man, their attention span is not what it used to be. Here I sit as an adult and my attention span isn’t you know, I remember the times where I’d sit and read books for hours and hours, and I find myself listening to audio books, so I can go do something else. Right, you know, so our attention is definitely split. So tell us a little bit, you wrote Ice Queen, is there any option for a sequel to that? Or do you have anything on the backburner that you might be working on, you could share with us here?

Felicia Farber
Janine, now that you ask, I do. I originally wrote this book because I thought this was a compelling issue that needed to be shared with the public that teen sexting is now child pornography, and teens need to be aware of the legal and social ramifications before they get into trouble. So that was really my motivation for writing this and then I have been asked pretty much by everybody who reads it when the sequel is coming out. So all these thoughts started turning in my head, and I am halfway through my sequel.

Janine Bolon
Awesome. Oh, I tell you, what, I’m sure some people are gonna want to follow up with you, is there a way that they can sign up on your newsletter or something so they can get kind of a preview of what you’re working on now?

Felicia Farber
That would be fantastic. If you just go to my website, which is www.FeliciaFarber.com, and I have a contact page there. Just leave me a note, and I would love to add you to my list and let you know… I don’t know what the name is yet, but when the sequel comes out.

Janine Bolon
And that’s one of the things I’d like to share with my listeners is the fact that authors really do love hearing from their fan base. They love what you guys have to say, they are more than happy to share their character sketches. I mean, after the book is published. But you know, after the book is published, they love to share your character sketches because you don’t just pull your character out of thin air of your head that may start that way. But do you find yourself kind of building your character as you look at people that happen to walk by you on the street? And that sort of thing? How do you build, or flush out a character?

Felicia Farber
Yes, you get a lot of inspiration from real life, much of it you make up in your head, but I’d have to say there are certain actions that other people do, certain ways that they might dress or speak and they resonate with you. And you say, oh, that’s like my character. And that actually is one of the best things about doing a sequel is because it was so hard for me to end Ice Queen, because I loved my characters so much, and I think other people do too, because they want to know what happened to them that’s why they’re asking me for a sequel. And so now that I’ve established these people who are real to me, I get to put them in the next sequence of working within the digital media realm, because I’m going to stay true to that storyline, it’s going to have something to do you know, again, no spoiler alert, but something to do with our cyber era.

Janine Bolon
That will be fabulous. So thank you so much for joining us today. Felicia. It was wonderful listening to you talk about Ice Queen and I’m not on often talked about subject, which is middle schoolers and sexting, and cyber bullying and how that actually can be under the child pornography laws. We appreciate your time today.

Felicia Farber
Thank you so much for having me. This was so much fun, and I can’t wait to hear from your listeners.

Janine Bolon
Yeah, please reach out to Felicia, it’s www.FeliciaFarber.com, and we have this transcript made available to you as well as backlinks not only to her website, but to certain sections of her book, if you’re interested. It’s available on all the major platforms along with Amazon. And so we encourage you to reach out to our authors that come on this program so that you can learn more about them. And this is Janine Bolon letting you know that we have two segments left of the Janine Bolon Show be sure to stay tuned and hear from another guest.

Janine Bolon
Hi, this is Janine Bolon thank you so much for tuning back in. It was lovely being able to have our previous guest and now we have a new guest with us today. And she has sought answers to complex questions, she is driven to find alternative solutions and not settling for this is the way we’ve always been taught kind of status quo. Our next guest has been able to, she was diagnosed with an incurable disease at the age of 19, and she was able to heal herself in 48 hours after a relapse. She also has the ability to uncover the real intent of our founding fathers when it came to taxation, and she is going to help us keep your hard earned money. Kelly Alexander has real answers to share. After more than a decade of research and practical application, Kelly is the leading expert in this field, she is helping people from many walks of life discover the options they never knew they had. Once armed with the secrets that Kelly has uncovered, We the People can legally and ethically liberate ourselves from federal and state income taxes. The secret is buried in powerful and little known banking laws. If you live in the United States legally, if you work in the private sector, and pay over $8,000 per year in income tax, you are a candidate for the great American tax remedy. Thank you so much for being with us today, Kelly.

Kelly Alexander
Oh, Janine it’s my pleasure. Thank you for having me.

Janine Bolon
So one of the things that I thought was fabulous was when you were first talking to us you had this quote that you mentioned, it’s kind of a paraphrase from Mark Twain. You said, “it’s not what you don’t know that’s the problem. It’s what you know, for sure, that ain’t just so” and I just thought that was so cute because it’s such a wonder, number one, I’m from Missouri. Okay. And Sam, Samuel Clemens, and Mark Twain is our hero. Yes, definitely, and so when you start bringing him into the equation, there’s always some good humor, but also some very solid advice. So talk to us a little bit about this great American tax remedy that you have brought about?

Kelly Alexander
Yes, well, what I discovered over my lifetime is that there is so much conditioning and programming around the IRS and the tax system that caused me, you know, when I saw that Mark Twain quote, I go, Oh, my goodness, there it is, you know, so many people are fearful of the IRS, and for good reason, you know, they do have a lot of authority, they do impact people’s lives or can impact people’s lives. But so much of it is happening because people do not really understand, you know, the truth of the whole system. So my role as a coach, for people that join the great American tax remedy is to help them really get to the meat and potatoes of what’s going on with the taxes, and not just hear what the media says what the societal, you know, norms are about taxes. Because it’s really tied into the banking system, who knew that the Federal Reserve and the IRS are joined at the hip yet that is never ever spoken of, you know, in the discourse, whether it’s the financial services industry, the tax field itself, the education system, and on and on and on. So that’s what I’d love to start sharing with your audience is how these two groups are linked. So back in 1913, that was the origin of the legislation that allowed the Federal Reserve Act be passed, and the Federal Reserve System to come into being. The Federal Reserve was given the authority to issue money as a third party, you know, for the nation to operate with. Prior to that, all the money issued into the country came from the Congress itself. And coincidentally, which is no coincidence at all, the IRS started the exact same time that the Federal Reserve started. That is because the IRS is actually the debt collection arm for the Federal Reserve. And I want to explain that a little bit better. Every Federal Reserve Note that gets issued into existence becomes a debt obligation on the US government, means it has to be paid back and paid back with interest. So what really happens is the monies collected by IRS go straight to the Federal Reserve to service the national debt. In other words, to pay the interest that’s due on our national debt. That’s it. So yeah, that’s how these organizations are so closely linked, one would not exist without the other. So as I said, before the Federal Reserve came into being, the Congress issued our money. When the Congress issues the money, there is no middleman banking system involved. There is no debt obligation on the government, and without that obligation, that money is not subject to an income tax. That’s the second major idea I want to share with your audience is there’s actually two distinct currencies that are available for us as citizens to utilize. The Federal Reserve Note is now the dominant primary currency, that’s what we have in our wallets, that it’s presumed now that everyone is operating with Federal Reserve money. So the remedy that I’ve discovered has to do with, I show people how to start using these this second or alternative other form of money. And then by doing that, and doing it correctly, and documenting it, they are not subject to income tax. So there’s a statute in the banking law in the United States Code. That’s a body of law that’s made up of over 50 chapters, and each chapter is designated to a different area of law. And title 12 is a chapter devoted to banking laws. So in chapter 12, the United States Code subsection 4-1-1, it states in their real planning list that Federal Reserve notes, they shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States, in DC, or any Federal Reserve Bank. So what does this mean? Federal Reserve Notes they shall be redeemed. Redeemed is to take something from one form and convert it into another form, or to exchange it for something else. They shall be redeemed in lawful money. What is lawful money? In this context, lawful money is the money that the Congress is authorized by our constitution to issue, does not mean that Federal Reserve notes are not lawful. Of course, they are lawful, they are the legal tender of the nation. But the statute is pointing to, you know, if you can exchange one form of money, you know, into something else, some other lawful money, then there’s too. And so that is the legal basis for this remedy. I want to give you a chance to comment or ask me a question, before I keep going. I want to make sure, I haven’t said something unclear by doing?

Janine Bolon
No, I think you are talking very well about how number one how the bank came into existence, a lot of people don’t realize that what was once called the First National Bank, which was Alexander Hamilton created the national banking system. What we’re talking about is in 1913, was when the Federal Reserve came into existence. And that is when the IRS also came into existence. And that’s where we started having these two currencies, as you’d like to share with us. So what you’re basically getting ready to walk us through from what I understand is that, with these Federal Reserve Notes, you have a four step system that basically helps liberate people from income tax, and it’s a system that’s legal, as you said, and is fair, and that anyone can benefit from the strategy. I’m sure you have ideal candidates on that, but we’ve got about three minutes. So if you could kind of walk through these four steps pretty quickly, and then we’ll talk about them again at the next segment.

Kelly Alexander
Sure. All right. So the first piece is for me to, I share with my clients an education, so they understand what they’re doing and why they’re doing it. And not only is it legal and fair, it is actually helping our government lower that national debt. This is a win win scenario for all the parties except the Federal Reserve, which has had such an unfair advantage over the country ever since its founding. So this is not about feeling guilty about oh, my gosh, and doing you know, getting away with something sneaky. No, it’s very beneficial. So education, I help people detox from, you know, the misinformation around the tax system. And then I show them the nuts and bolts, logistics of how to make these this redemption for the other lawful money. It’s simple, simple paperwork, depending on how you receive your income into your bank account depends on which of the few simple forms that are needed to make that record. And then there is the part of the process where I work with you really closely on how to actually prepare your 1040 tax return. So, you know, because that’s where your claim of liberation from the taxes actually happens is filing your tax return.

Janine Bolon
Okay, and I just wanted to say we’re about ready to break for commercial. And so this is Kelly Alexander, who is talking to us about the great American tax remedy and how she has found a system that will help you get to a place where you can use a very illegal and systemized way to drop your income taxes to lower amounts. And yet at the same time, you’re still helping your federal government. And we will talk more about that when we come back from this break.

Janine Bolon
Welcome back to the Janine Bolon Show. I’m your host, Janine Bolon, and today, we have Kelly Alexander with us. And Kelly is wonderful because she has come up with a way to eliminate income taxes and how to do it simply and legally. She calls it the great American tax remedy. Now, Kelly, you’re not a CPA or a licensed financial advisor, are you?

Kelly Alexander
That’s correct. I have no licenses or designations whatsoever, and honestly, I do not want any.

Janine Bolon
Right. I understand. I understand that. But tell us a little bit about how you found out about these two currencies. And you know, digging around in the US tax system, and the Federal Reserve isn’t something your common place citizen is doing. So talk to us about how you found out this thing in the tax code.

Kelly Alexander
Sure, well, I think the Genesis was when I was 16, and got my very first job at a fast food restaurant, I was given a form a W4 to fill out and it had on there, it said if you did not owe taxes last year, and you expect to owe no taxes this year, then you can write in exempt from withholding. And I thought, wow, they’re telling us there’s a way to be exempt. And I look back on that, and I thought you know, that was the proverbial, you know, grain of sand and the oyster, that kind of gnawed at me for three decades or more. And then, you know, I was trading in the stock market and learning a little bit about the Federal Reserve through that and the interest rate announcements, and I was also studying other legal and commercial things and getting involved in groups that were studying historical and founding father things. And just little by little, I started getting little snippets of insights about the law, and that there’s actually a legal dictionary, and, you know, I didn’t really hunt this down, it just kind of showed up, you know, through that meandering path and my own curiosity and just little hints of something deeper was going on beneath, you know, the surface of what I was seeing just caused me to poke around and see what was there and that’s really what led me like breadcrumbs. I did find some information online, I found other people that were studying similar subjects. I mean, I didn’t invent this remedy. I discovered it. And then what I did do is I turned it into a system. And I’ve had a 100% success rate with all of my clients. And so, that’s the origin.

Janine Bolon
It’s amazing where a path will lead you down, like you said, you know, it was started with that grain of sand, and then the next thing you know, here you are 30 years later, teaching people your four step system to be liberated from income tax. Now, you talked about that you have certain ideal candidates for this, that it’s not necessarily appropriate for everyone. But there are certain people who can definitely benefit from what you have to offer. Do you mind talking about your ideal candidate for this great American tax remedy?

Kelly Alexander
Sure, sure. Yeah, for people that are paying at least $8,000 to $10,000 annually to the IRS, this would be a great way to help you keep really all of that money for your own economy and your own goals. And again, you’d be lowering the national debt by hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars by doing this.

Janine Bolon
I think that’s the thing that most impressed me, forgive me for cutting in, but that was the thing that most impressed me about this was that it really is a win win win. It’s a win for the federal government that we understand how this is working, and how we can lower our national debt. It’s a win for the person who has more money that is available to you to either save, invest or be able to spend on goods or services, and then it’s a win for the economy as a whole. The only person, the only individual who doesn’t win in this is basically the Federal Reserve, is that right?

Kelly Alexander
That’s correct. Yes. There’s a fantastic book called The Creature from Jekyll Island. It’s an expose’ on the Federal Reserve, how it was started, you know, the banking empires that came together to figure out how can they get a foothold in America, it’s very well researched, very well documented, I recommend, it gives great insight into what the Federal Reserve really is. The book title, the creature refers to the Federal Reserve, and then Jekyll Island is actually a small private island off the coast of Georgia, where these banking families met over a period of years leading up to 1913. So for those curious people, that’s a great read.

Janine Bolon
Okay, so here you are this, this very adept scholar, this person who likes to scratch away at the surface of things to find out what’s underneath. So your ideal candidate, somebody that pays consistently eight to $10,000, in taxes, you mentioned that it is also helpful. You also have answers for people who are entrepreneurs. Is that right?

Kelly Alexander
Yes, this strategy that I’m talking about, it’s ideal for those people that are employed, especially if they have a relatively high salary as an employee. It can work for business owners as well. I do have another remedy for business owners. We can talk about that in more detail another time. But this covers, this remedy can be exercised and does cover any source of income, whether it’s from a job, rental income, capital gains, business income, cryptocurrency returns, really any form of income this can be applied to.

Janine Bolon
And what I find fascinating is that you have found a way where this is all extremely legal, and have you had any, have you had the IRS or any other governmental agency call you to task on what you’ve done?

Kelly Alexander
I did receive a frivolous filing notice from the IRS, which is a notice that occasionally taxpayer will get if they believe that your filing was on the face of it, they considered frivolous. That happened about two and a half years ago. I responded to those letters, and it has melted away. And I think that’s a reflection of the IRS staff themselves, many of them are unaware of this, just like the general public is totally unaware that such a remedy exists. And on the face of it, it can appear to be frivolous. But with just a little correspondence, we ironed that out the higher levels of the IRS know that this is viable, they have never added it to their frivolous filing memorandum that they update periodically. And I met with an attorney not too long ago, who actually used to work at the IRS, and he said, Oh, yes, the lawful money redemption, that is a legal strategy. And not that I didn’t know that, but it’s always nice to hear, someone with that status say so.

Janine Bolon
Right yet to have confirmation from somebody who is not intimately involved in your financial affairs. Right. Exactly. I get that definitely. So of all your clients, then none of them have fallen under any kind of negativity from the IRS on this?

Kelly Alexander
That’s correct.

Janine Bolon
Okay. I just like to ask those sorts of questions, because that’s the first thing that pops up when you have something that like, what you’re talking about that is this radical, I mean, talk about flying in the face of common knowledge. I mean, what are some of the things that you had to get over yourself, when you were digging through this? I am sure there was a lot of fear factor, because of the conditioning, we’ve all had that there are only two things that are certain in life, right? Death, none of us are ever going to get out of here alive, right? No, there’s 100% guarantee you will die, right? 100% guarantee that you will not get out of life alive. The second guarantee is taxes, right? Death and taxes. So talk to us a little bit about the fear factor you had to get over when you first kind of figured this out.

Kelly Alexander
Yeah, so that is very real for people. And yeah, I’ve had my own fears. And once in a while, I go to the mailbox, and I get an envelope from IRS and I will still feel my heartbeat just jump a little bit, you know, faster for a moment. It’s like, it’s not 100% gone. But, you know, I look at it, and then I smile, and I resume my composure really quickly now. So it’s different for everybody. For me, it was a gradual, I mean, the education is so important. That is what begins to melt away the fear. You know, when you start understanding what’s really going on and you can verify things not just because I said it or somebody else said it or whatever. People often have a lot of fear about getting audited. That’s one of the common questions, well geez, what, if I get audited, will you help me? And, to that, specifically, I’ve never been audited. People that do this strategy do not get audited. People that are targets for audit, are people that claim excessive deduction. And the deductions that are claimed with this system are, if anything, much less, not much more.

Janine Bolon
Brilliant. That’s wonderful to know. Thank you so much, we’re about out of time. So one of the things I wanted to let you folks know is that Kelly Alexander has a free guide, “Eliminate Your Income Tax Simply and Legally”. Go to her website, www.mytaxremedy.com,and she can help you with that. She will be glad to have the download there, the free guide, I highly recommend it. To learn more about her four steps to liberation from income tax, that you go to her website, get on a strategy call with her and have her help you. Kelly, thank you so much for being on the Janine Bolon show today.

Kelly Alexander
Oh, it’s been my pleasure. Thank you so much, Janine.

Janine Bolon
And we will bring her back by popular demand probably around April or May, when we all get done paying those taxes and think, hey, maybe we need to get that great American tax remedy back up here. So we wish you a great day today from the Janine Bolon show.

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